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Gay Men: Are You a Jock, Otter, Bear or Wolf?

Updated on June 29, 2017
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John Hollywood writes about pop culture topics with a psychological twist. Most articles are practical in nature with a "How To" approach.

This body type: Gym rat, muscular and built
This body type: Gym rat, muscular and built | Source

Gay men often use descriptive terms to identify and label other men within the wider gay community. No doubt you’ve heard of some of these labels, like jock, otter, bear, cub, wolf, and so forth. But many gay men often wonder what these terms actually mean.

How many times have you approached your friends and asked them, “What am I? Which group do I fall into? And what the heck is a wolf?”

Maybe you’ve even sent them a bathroom mirror selfie wanting some answers.

After conducting extensive research on gay body types, collecting survey opinions from gay blogs, and plugging the data into high-grade statistical analysis software, the typologies of gay male body types can now be revealed. Much of the analysis draws upon search phrases via Google’s algorithms. Nothing was left to chance.

To simplify the process (and for giggles), I've used popular film and television celebrity photos as a point of reference. At the end of this article, there’s a link to a gay census website where you can punch in your information to find out your potential category.

Please note that I have not included all of the groups here and the ones that are here may have a subgroup. It is entirely possible that your group is not listed. Finally, some may disagree with these labels as there continues to be ongoing friction regarding what they mean. This is simply an attempt to offer clarity.

Can you identify your gay body type? Let's jump right in . . .

Gay Body Types

Type
Build
Hair
Age
Example Celebrity
Notes
Otter
Thin or athletic
Lots
Any age
Scott Caan
Part of the extended bear community
Wolf
Lean, muscular
Semi-Hairy
Any age
Joe Manganiello
Sexually aggressive; Silver or grey wolf is an older wolf
Bear
Big, often with a belly
Lots
Any
John Travolta
Very masculine
Cub
Husky
Lots
Young or younger-looking
Jack Black
Sugar cubs and muscle cubs are sub-types
Chub
Real big
Maybe
Any
John Goodman
Distinct from bears
Pup
Slender
No
Young
Joe Jonas
Energetic, cute, and naive
Bull
Super-built
Maybe
Any
Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson
 
Twink
Slender
No
Young
Justin Beiber
Self-centered, usually between 18 and the mid-20’s
Twunk
Muscular but slender
No
Young
The muscular version of Beiber
A more muscular Twink
Gym Bunny
Sculpted
Maybe
Under 50
Shemar Moore
Fitness associated with gym, not sports
Jock
Muscular and athletic
Maybe
Any
David Beckham
Fitness is associated with sports
Gym Rat
Very lean and well-built
Maybe
Any
 
Addicted to working out
The Frolicking Otter! (CC BY 2.0)
The Frolicking Otter! (CC BY 2.0) | Source

The Otter

Build
Hair
More Info
Thin to athletic
Lots of hair
Part of bear community, but smaller than both bears and cubs

In the gay world, an otter is considered a thin gay male that is hairy and may or may not use a trimmer to shorten body hair. Some otters have beards, and some do not.

Otters usually have smaller frames when compared to the heavier cub or bear and look a lot like what you would see in a picture of an otter . . . hairy. This might surprise some people who typically think of otters as smooth.

Athletic but not super built, a person can be an otter regardless of age and they are considered to be part of the larger bear community. Think of otters being somewhere between cubs and bears. They’re not as massive as bears and are certainly smaller than cubs.

Celebrity Otter: Scott Caan

Scott Caan Has Otter-Like Features
Scott Caan Has Otter-Like Features | Source

Scott Caan might be a good example of an otter. Notice in the photograph how he is slightly hairy and might even trim to reduce the hair on his chest and torso. You might remember Scott from a number of movies and TV shows, including films like Into the Blue and Hawaii Five-0. He is 5’5’’and was born in Los Angeles.

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The Wolf

Build
Hair
More Info
Lean, muscular, and attractive
Semi-hairy, often have facial hair
Considered sexually aggressive and part of the larger bear community

Semi-hairy, muscular, lean, attractive, and sexually aggressive, wolves are sometimes considered as part of the larger bear community or on the bear spectrum. They can be any age and normally have facial hair.

Some might also describe wolves as slimmer bears but there is a lot of disagreement on this. Subgroups of wolves can be found in aging wolves, which are gay men with wolf-like features that are starting to turn a bit gray.

And then there are full-on silver or gray wolves, terms that describes an older wolf with gray or white facial and body hair.

Celebrity Wolf: Joe Manganiello

Joe Manganiello Makes a Good Wolf
Joe Manganiello Makes a Good Wolf | Source

Joe Manganiello would be a celebrity example of a younger wolf, since he’s lean, hairy, and attractive. Interestingly enough, Manganiello played the part of a wolf in the HBO hit series, True Blood.

Hugh Jackman might be good example of an older or aging wolf. He’s the mid-40s hottie who you saw in the X-Men series and The Wolverine.

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The Bear

Build
Hair
More Info
Big, usually heavy or muscular
Lots of hair
Fairly large, protruding belly is typical characteristic; very masculine

Characteristically, a bear is a large, possibly heavy gay man that could also be muscular. A fairly large protruding belly is a defining characteristic of a bear.

Masculinity is also a key feature of bears, and some bears are so caught up in projecting a masculine image that they shun other would-be bears who appear to be too effeminate. That said, many bears consider themselves to be harmless and even playful.

There are several subtypes of bear, which include:

  • Muscle Bears: Bears whose size comes from muscle and not from fat
  • Polar Bears: Older bears with gray or white facial and body hair
  • Sugar Bears: Effeminate bears that are shunned by more masculine bears

Celebrity Bear: John Travolta

John Travolta: Gym Bunny Turned Bear
John Travolta: Gym Bunny Turned Bear | Source

John Travolta (born in 1954) is a good example of a bear. At one time, Travolta was considered to be a gym bunny or even a wolf, but as he’s grown older he’s developed key bear body traits (especially a belly).

Other celebrity bear body types include the now-deceased James Gandolfini (best known for his role as Tony Soprano) and actor and comedian Robin Williams (also deceased).

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The Cub

Build
Hair
More Info
Husky
Hairy but may or may not have beard
A younger male that is not quite bear size

For gay men, the term cub is used to describe a younger (or younger-looking) male that is usually husky or heavier in body type and is almost always hairy. While many cubs have a beard, it is not a requirement to fit this category since body hair and huskiness are the dominant features for this gay descriptor.

Cubs are sometimes partnered with bears in passive relationships or with other cubs and they can sometimes be considered an apprentice to a bear.

Here are a few subtypes of cubs:

  • Muscle Cubs: Body size is attributable to muscular composition as opposed to body fat
  • Sugar Cubs: Effeminate cubs

Celebrity Cub: Jack Black

Jack Black
Jack Black | Source

Jack Black might be a good example of a cub. Born in Santa Monica, California you might recognize Jack Black from movies like School of Rock and High Fidelity.

We don't have a lot of male celebrity examples of cubs. Almost all cubs aspire to become bears within the larger bear community.

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The Chub

Build
Hair
More Info
Overweight or obese
Maybe
Distinct from bears; chub-chasers are men who prefer chubs

In the gay world, chubs are a distinct subgroup within the gay male population and are often confused with bears. Many bears reject extremely large or obese chubs and do not consider them as part of their subgroup. Chubs even have their own events, such as Mr. Chub International. According to my research, an extremely large chub is referred to as a superchub.

Along with chubs, I should note a group of people called chasers. These individuals are attracted romantically and physically to chubs and are typically much smaller than chubs.

Chub Celebrity: John Goodman

John Goodman
John Goodman | Source

John Goodman is a good example of a chub or superchub. You have seen him in a number of films and TV shows, most notably Roseanne. John Candy (deceased), actor from films like Planes, Train & Automobiles, is another example of a chub.

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The Pup

Build
Hair
More Info
Slender
Smooth
Body-type similar to twink, but are new to gay world

A pup is a gay male who is fairly young—we’re talking late teens to early 20s more or less. Pups are known for their lack of experience in the gay world, as well as for being naïve, energetic and cute. They may have similar body types to twinks (see end of article) however, pups usually are super new to the gay world whereas twinks are not.

Though they share some similarities to cubs, pups are not involved in the bear community and likely do not even know this community exists.

You often hear seasoned gay men tell very young gay men who are just coming out things like, "You are just a young pup—you have a lot to learn." or "You are just a pup—you’re just a baby!"

Celebrity Pup: Joe Jonas

Joe Jonas Has Pup Characteristics
Joe Jonas Has Pup Characteristics | Source

Early 20-something Joe Jonas is a good example of a pup body type. Joe and his brother Nick starred in their own Disney Channel Original Series, Jonas.

Taylor Lautner (Twilight series) and Sterling Beaumon (Astro Boy) are other pup body type examples.

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The Bull

Build
Hair
More Info
Super massive body-builders
Maybe
Often found in herds

In the gay community, bulls are body builders that weigh between 215 and 300 pounds. They are not necessarily part of the bear community and usually herd together as a bull might in its natural environment.

Celebrity Bull: Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson

Dwayne Johnson Good Bull Example
Dwayne Johnson Good Bull Example | Source

Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson, the 40-something California-born movie star and wrestler, is a good example of a bull body type. He used to be a professional wrestler with the World Wrestling Federation (WWF).

30-something, Australian-born actor Chris Hemsworth, based on his appearance in the movie Thor, is another good example of a potential bull body type. Hemsworth stands at a whopping 6'4 and his weight has varied between 195 and 215 pounds according to recent interviews.

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The Twink and the Twunk

 
Build
Hair
More Info
Twink
Slender
Smooth
Self-centered
Twunk
Lean but muscular
Smooth
Same as above

Twinks

In gay terms, twinks are younger, slim men with minimal body hair and no hair on the face. They’re usually between 18 and the mid-20’s, give or take a few years. A wrap on the twink is that many think the world revolves around them.

Twunks

Twunks are a more muscular version of twinks, and some have assigned feminine and masculine characteristics to twunks. For example, sugar twunk describes an affectionate twunk.

Some make the mistake of confusing twinks and twunks with tweakers when they’re actually not related. Tweakers are younger gay men that use party drugs, like E and crystal meth and are very thin as a result of not eating enough. However, one does not need to be a tweaker to tweak.

Celebrity Twink or Twunk: Justin Bieber

Justin Bieber Could be Twink or Twunk
Justin Bieber Could be Twink or Twunk | Source

Justin Bieber has at times exhibited both a twink and a twunk body type, depending on what photograph you’re looking at of him and when the photo was taken.

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CC BY 2.0 | Source

The Gym Bunny

Build
Hair
More Info
Sculpted
Maybe
Usually under 50, related to gym rats; often considered pretty

Gym bunnies are native to both straight and gay worlds. They can be any age but are usually younger than 50. Gym bunnies spend an obsessive amount of time working on their physique and are muscular and sculpted as a result.

Bunnies are similar to jocks except that their fitness is not usually connected to sports. They work out to create a physique others will notice and look at. You will often find gym bunnies at the beach and they are typically considered pretty.

Celebrity Gym Bunny: Shemar Moore

Shemar Moore Gym Bunny Type
Shemar Moore Gym Bunny Type | Source

Shemar Moore might be a good example of a gym bunny body. You might recall him from the soap opera Young and the Restless and he now appears on CBS's Criminal Minds.

The Jock

Build
Hair
More Info
Athletic
Maybe
Physique associated with sports

For gay men, jocks are almost always considered attractive, muscular males with low body fat. A jock can be of any age but they are generally considered to be younger because of their athletic abilities and they are usually linked to playing sports and being active.

Years ago, the term "jock" used to have a negative connotation in the straight world. However for gays, being called a jock is a compliment.

Celebrity Jock: David Beckham

David Beckham is a Jock
David Beckham is a Jock | Source

David Beckham, the English-born footballer (soccer player) is a good example of a jock body type.

The Gym Rat

Build
Hair
More Info
Muscular
Maybe
Men addicted to working out

Gym rats are somewhat similar to gym bunnies but are distinguished by their addiction to working out. While they may enjoy attention from others in public, that is not their motivation for being fit. Their primary motive for long, daily lifting sessions relates more to an obsessive need to get bigger. They are typically lean and very well-built. Like a rat lives in the basement, gym rats live at the gym and are always there. The straight equivalent would be a muscle head.

Gym bunnies and gym rats are closely related. Again, the primary difference is that gym bunnies care most about sculpting their bodies whereas gym rats are typically concerned with adding muscle size in hopes of becoming a bull.

Some Final Thoughts

There has always been disagreement within the gay community around descriptive terms for body types and their associated characteristics. It is possible that some readers could feel they don’t fall into any of the above categories.

If this is the case, there is always the "average" category, which is an area that many gay men fall into and simply means that the person is average in most areas, including body weight, height, and hairiness.

Note that the term "daddy" not used here. This is because a "daddy" is not connected to a specific body type. Wolves, bears, chubs, and otters can all technically be daddies.

A great video to stream or download is The Adonis Factor, a documentary that goes into fairly deep detail on gay body types.

And hey . . . if you would like to learn more about your body type, you can always take the Gay Cliques Census online which tells you where you may fit in, based on the data you put in.

Please be sure to share this article with your friends to help educate them and others on the many gay body types within the community. Also, if you are so inclined, please like Mister Hollywood on Facebook.

- Mister Hollywood

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      Vikub13 3 years ago

      Your definitions are just a wee bit off but not too far! You failed on Otters wholly because they're like softball players are are more akin to your definition of Wolves. Thick slender build with tone and just a little belly. Bears by and large have some sort of belly. There are also Behrs who have the build of a barrel torso and not excessively hirsute. Your description of was way off. They are usually slender and lanky and mostly hairy. Then you failed completely to mention Chubs, Chasers and Admirers.

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      John Hollywood 3 years ago from Hollywood, CA

      Vikcub,

      Thanks. Remember that there is wide disagreement on the terms and so much of what was used comes from wide Internet keyword searches. Chubs should be included. Chasers and Admirers are not body types :)

      Thanks again for the feedback!

      - Mister Hollywood.

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      Mikey 3 years ago

      I loved this. Basic and easy to understand. Thanks for the laughs!

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      Vikub13 3 years ago

      No problem man just one of the original Bears from Dallas. Compliments on what you did get right. You have to remember that the whole bear movement was a response to the Pretty Boy dominance in the Gay culture of the 80's & 90's. The Bears groups were formed in response to the common disdain and intolerance of Fat guys that was the norm at that time. Where they shaved and toned, we grew out our body hair and became more focused on making thick bodied and nice bellies a thing of beauty. As for Chasers and Admirers, they are usually the skinny or athletic Twinks & Jocks who are not attracted to their own "type" but rather are attracted to the "ugly fat" people as they were called back in the day!

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      John Hollywood 3 years ago from Hollywood, CA

      Thanks Vikub and you are wonderful!

      xo

      - Mister Hollywood

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      Daniel English 3 years ago

      These labels quite honestly to me are some of the most dehumanizing of labels gay men can use. Usually I am not a bleeding heart on things I find wrong with LGBT culture. Yet, I do feel these descriptions do aid in dehumanizing gay men in general. How many people do you see that ultimately disregard potential mates or friends because of these narrow labels? I think these labels have been detrimental to gay culture. LGBT individuals are people! They are not some damn animal names with stereotypical definitions. Gay men are just people end of story! And it is about time we allow these descriptions to die out because they do in my opinion create caste groups within gay culture.

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      James 3 years ago

      Loved this article! I have always wondered about these terms and could never figure them out until now. I'm 25 years old and just now coming out and have been called a pup by a lot of guys.

      The remarks by Daniel English are ridiculous. These names and labels are part of our culture. Should we get rid of the Bear community because people like you are overly sensitive? Get a life!

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      Jay 3 years ago

      I liked your article but I found some of the descriptions to be a bit too pointed. I agree you hit most categorizations but you left out whole subsets of bears, you made cubs seem like they're submissive to all bears or all aspire to be bears and you totally mislabeled PUPS. Pups aren't a name used to describe people new to the gay scene. It's actually a sexual persona that people adopt as part of their life. They can be anyone from a twin to a bear, though generally depicted as a twink or otter in adult media, who takes on the persona of an actual pup during sexual play. Additionally I think you play up the masculine vs feminine aspects too much. Most bear communities I've been a part of have been warm and inviting no matter where you fall in the masc vs. fem debate. Unlike the general gay populace, which tends to be critical of others as well as the bear community. I myself fought tooth and nail to not be lumped in with the bear community for most of my 20's. It wasn't till I actually spent time at the "bear bar" in my city that I actually felt comfortable with myself and my role in gay culture. Even then I was called the Twinkie Bear by friends outside the community. Because I was friends with more twinks than bears. I'm happy for the identity. I agree that it's part of our culture and it's a fun topic. I just wish that it wasn't used as an excuse to discriminate within our community as a whole. We're just different families in the same tribe.

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      John Hollywood 3 years ago from Hollywood, CA

      Jay, thanks for sharing and know your insight is appreciated!

      - Mister Hollywood

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      MG 3 years ago

      Why must we label ourself? What a shame. Why can't I just be me?

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      davey 3 years ago

      Cool article, but pups shouldn't really be on here. It's more of a Leather community identity for people into pup play. More of a mindset than the young twink body type you give it.

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      Chris 3 years ago

      Funny as hell man. Can't stop laughing at the John Travolta pic and the Bear!

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      Nickels 3 years ago

      Get over it girls ... Labels are part of our community. Ya sugar bears!

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      CB Jones 3 years ago

      Great article and super funny!

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      bond 3 years ago

      Really useful and true!

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      ron 3 years ago

      I don't seem to fit anywhere. I am 5'6" 145 lbs, very little body hair, 52 years old. Personally, I don't give a fig about labels, except for internet search.

      gayronalabama@gmail.com

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      DavidIntl 3 years ago

      I came here trying to figure out what a guy who described himself as an "otter" really meant. I agree with Freemanz and ron that I often feel like none of these traditional "tribe" names fits me. I am too old to be a twink and definitely a top, but I hate body hair and make sure not to have any. I am not slim, to my chagrin, but I don't have the belly to be a "bear" or a "chub". My great passion is the classic twink, but only those twinks who act like sweet, innocent young men, not slutty girls. I like a guy who smells like a man, yet I have no particular interest in guys who live at the gym, or whose greatest interest is following some sports team. I am shallow enough to be irrationally turned on by an awesome slim torso (even the dreaded headless variety) with that tantalizing V-shape, and yet I hate to be judged just on my appearance. I know I can't be the only guy like me, so what is my descriptive label?

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      John Hollywood 3 years ago from Hollywood, CA

      Remember that you can be a little bit of one or the other. :)

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      Jeff 3 years ago

      Where did you get that picture of the first guy in the article?

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      John B 3 years ago from Florida

      this is VERY helpful. I couldn't figure out where i landed on the gay man spectrum (i don't require labels but they are nice to have). I had no idea that "wolf" or "bull" were parts of the spectrum! I thought they all were just bears... oh well. According to this i am a cub (tending on "Sugar cub"). Thanks for the help

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      Wolf Puppy 2 years ago

      I just have one thing to say, everything you have said here is completely wrong none of these terms are about body shape or size, they are about ideals and values. By publishing this you obviously have not done your research, and it is articles like this that have lead the gay men f this generation into forgetting everything that the community stands for, and as such confuses the hell out of people to the point that no one knows what is going on any more. All these terms are to let other know what type of person you are and your interests, not your body shape.

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      John Hollywood 2 years ago from Hollywood, CA

      Wolf Puppy you simply are completely wrong. You need to check Wikipedia and see what they have to say about Bears for example in the LGBT world. Do your research:)

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      Brace 2 years ago

      Loved this article man. So fun any helpful!

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      2 years ago

      hilarious

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      A cub 2 years ago

      How to share this?

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      John Hollywood 2 years ago from Hollywood, CA

      Copy and paste the Url is what I do. Thanks for stopping by!

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      Gus 2 years ago

      one word... STEREOTYPES

      that's scary,

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      John Hollywood 2 years ago from Hollywood, CA

      Thanks for stopping by:)

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      islandskank 2 years ago

      Love the way it is possible,then again? Am a Bear

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      Richard 2 years ago

      What's a tiger? Is there a lion? Trying to figure out my gay animal. I'm somewhere in between a cub and a wolf though only moderately hairy. I work out but not enough to be a gym bunny. Lol

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      John Hollywood 2 years ago from Hollywood, CA

      I'll haver to check! Lol!

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      Stargrrl 2 years ago

      I thought this was kind of interesting. I never knew that gay men had "types." You learn something new everyday!

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      John Hollywood 2 years ago from Hollywood, CA

      Glad you stopped by Stargrrl!

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      vickiecollins 2 years ago

      A very good run down of the various men. I have to admit I learned a lot from reading this. I always assumed otters were young...like a pup. I just put up my first article about the transgendered community.

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      John Hollywood 2 years ago from Hollywood, CA

      Ha I love it:) Thanks for stopping by and I will check out your hubs!

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      Abby Campbell 2 years ago from Charlotte, North Carolina

      misterhollywood - I was breezing through some of my followers while trying to find some new hubbers I could also follow. I was having a difficult time as I like to read fun yet good quality articles (i.e., spelling, grammar, sentence structure, etc.). It's difficult to find these days. And, though I am far from being a gay man, nor a gay woman, I found your article to be very interesting. I am familiar with the terms "cougar" and "cub" in the world of "older woman and younger man," but I never knew that gay men had the terms you presented. It made me giggle reading your article. Thank you for the pleasure this evening. :-)

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      John Hollywood 2 years ago from Hollywood, CA

      Thanks, Abby! I am glad that you liked. I am going to check out your hubs now. I love reading my fellow hubbers work!

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      Abby Campbell 2 years ago from Charlotte, North Carolina

      By the way, who is that hot and sexy man in the first photo? ;)

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      John Hollywood 2 years ago from Hollywood, CA

      Abby - I'm not sure but I found him on Pinterest!

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      Julian 2 years ago

      what about the squirrels, the panda bears, the brown bears, the black bears, koalas, pigs, raccoons? Cheers!

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      Jbp 2 years ago

      twunks, if I understand correctly, are actually older men that still believe they are twinks. Generally refers to someone who can't accept the fact he is no longer 23 but 47

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      Pup 2 years ago

      This is a fun read. I never understood twunk, I thought it was an aging twink. :-) the pup description should be completely redone. As was stated before it is a lifestyle associated with the leather community or guys in roles of pups. They range all ages and body types. I, at 30 something, am a boy and pup to my Sir. While also being a jock. Also, pup is not a body type by your own description. It's a moment in time for gays, which come in all body types when they're new. I remember calling them baby gays but never a pup. Google "gay pup" and you get hits on puppy play.

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      John Hollywood 2 years ago from Hollywood, CA

      Love it!

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      John Hollywood 2 years ago from Hollywood, CA

      Too funny - thanks for coming by to share!!

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      Karne1991 2 years ago

      thanks for this, I already know im an otter, im 23 years old and i habe always been hairy since I started my pubity. Some people have stated otters wrong saying they have a bit of belly... Actually not really Otters are those who are hairy or still hairy but trim that they have either slim, athletic or a lil bit of a belly. Those who just say only hair and belly then what am i classed as then? A nobody... Anywaysnthanks for this as its Accurate for otters and im always happy to be an Otter :)

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      STEFFI SKIN GRAF 2 years ago

      Lol. The title should be "Gay Men: are you Classist, Racist, Sexist, Homophobic, Pozphobic, Fatphobic, Transphobic, or just plain Mean?"

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      Brandon 2 years ago

      Good god, NO. Here's another article that blindly tries to describe my experience as a gay man by taking the beautiful breadth of diversity of men and organizing it into clumsy, cookie-cutter categories. This article would be hilarious if so many gay men didn't eat this load of **** up and abandon their own individuality for what's in style. Ugh.

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      Rayden 2 years ago

      Welp I guess I am an otter.. Only 19 but.. 5'7, 126lbs, very small arms, kinda big legs, but very basic/thin abdomen with chest hair, arm hair, leg hair...and the only places I shave are my face + pits. :]

      I am a femme slut though. Lucky I don't have HIV. :(

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      Carl 2 years ago

      I thought that twunk was the past tense of twink. One of those guys trying way too hard to cling to his youth (which the twinkies inform me ends at 24).

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      Melissa Reese Etheridge 2 years ago from Tennessee, United States

      Well, I just don't know what to say. I had no idea of these terms.

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      John Godwin 2 years ago from Athens, Georgia USA

      You had to have missed several because according to the list, I would be labeled a jock. Highly doubt that, I've never been considered a jock before, I don't think. Isn't there just a "regular gay", or oh I bet I would probably be labeled a semi-jock who doesn't play sports, but looks as though he could.

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      John Hollywood 2 years ago from Hollywood, CA

      I think you would fall under jock since it goes by body type not necessarily activity:)

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      stephen kalu 2 years ago from Nigeria

      nice one

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      John Hollywood 2 years ago from Hollywood, CA

      Thanks!

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      HappyThug 2 years ago

      You got it so wrong... Ugh John Travolta is no iconic bear... maybe Rustle Crowe, especially these days. Maybe Nick Frost, he's widely considered a bear, but it could be argued he's a chub.

      Wolves haven't been a thing for 10 years... I've never even heard of "bulls" pups are not "younger" just smaller and submissive and playful fuzzy types. Like otters, but subs.

      Also, you didn't have to use the worst picture ever as john goodman as a chub geezuz, though the category is at least accurate for him.

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      Steven Hooper 2 years ago

      Interesting...However, on your gay cliques survey, if I put in my stats but only change my age, I get everything from bull to muscle bear to daddy as age increases. You state that, in terms of density, bulls are mostly muscle, muscle bears are muscly and daddies are soft body. This assumes increasing percentage of body fat in terms of body composition with age. This is not true for everyone. I agree with the daddy part as I am 58 except that I am anything but soft body. Most people looking at me would say I am extremely muscular, being a very solid 230 lbs. at 6 feet tall. I know a number of older guys that are very similar. So your conclusion of soft body for all daddies is just plainly wrong or you need another category of daddy such as muscle daddy or? Truthfully I have never considered myself a muscle bear as I consider muscle bears carry a significant amount of body fat more than I do even when I'm "off season"...By your description in the article, I feel that I would be more in the bull category as I have a bodybuilder build, definitely not soft body. So how do you reconcile this problem in the gay cliques survey?

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      Dre 2 years ago

      This was a fun read through and majority of it is fact safe to say..

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      John Hollywood 2 years ago from Hollywood, CA

      Obviously humor through exaggeration escapes you

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      John Hollywood 2 years ago from Hollywood, CA

      I don't run that survey - and "bear in mind" it's humor:)

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      John Hollywood 2 years ago from Hollywood, CA

      Thanks Dre!

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      Colin Garrow 2 years ago from Kinneff, Scotland

      Have to say I'm not a great fan of labels, but I suppose it's natural for some folk to want to hang a 'type' badge onto particular people. Whatever churns your cheese.

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      John Godwin 2 years ago from Athens, Georgia USA

      Yeah, thanks I will take it !!

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      Jacqui 2 years ago from New Zealand

      Well, there you go! As a gay woman, I was aware of some of these, but not all. I guess we do like to label ourselves occasionally, and these make sense of some of the terms I hear in the community, but didn't get. I do now

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      ArtieZip 2 years ago

      Fun article and more accurate than lots on this subject I think. It's maybe a sign of the ageism in our culture that there's no category for average guys. I've always wondered what does a Twink become when they grow up? For example, what would Joseph Gordon-Levitt be?

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      pecanfanni 2 years ago

      I'm a bear

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      Mr-DJ 2 years ago

      I agree with commentors about Pups. They are not usually new and naïve. They are related more to the leather community, and are easily in their 20's - 30's, sometimes even more. And are MORE away if the community than twins, not less.

      And I see an age contradiction when you called an "older / aging wolf" as someone in his mid-40's, and then later gave Jack Black as an example of a young cub. Jack is 45. Same as that 'aging wolf'.

      Lastly - you gave 'masculinity' as an important and key feature of being a bear. That's almost laughable. And this is not to put down bears, but a large percentage of bears are so NOT masculine. You could claim it's a key feature of wolves, and some other categories. But not a "key" feature of bears.

      Now, I know you iterated that these are generalities, and that there will always be disagreements, but I felt compelled to comment that even as generalities, I disagree with those 3 aspects - as I have been around all of the above during my 40 years of being 'out'.

      BTW - I would have described 'twunk' as a twink who already has qualities of a hunk. I think that's what you were getting at anyway but missed using the actually word 'hunk' - thus the name TWUNK.

      Sorry, Didn't mean to be so critical. A lot of good info there. Thanks.

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      John Hollywood 2 years ago from Hollywood, CA

      You did not offend at all and I am glad you posted. Thanks for taking the time to share!

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      Yalul 2 years ago from Philippines

      I had a great time laughing at this one! I go for the jock type of course, especially David Beckham :)

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      hereforit 2 years ago

      My body type = gummy bear. cute, small, soft, squishy and hairless.

      Also- why all straight dudes as examples?

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      peachy 2 years ago from Home Sweet Home

      these guys with the nicknames suited them very well

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      John Hollywood 2 years ago from Hollywood, CA

      Thanks so much Peachpurple!

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      Wendi Pembridge Skilling 2 years ago from Overland Park, KS

      This was totally worth the read just to look at True Blood Boy's picture. Haaawt!! I effing love gay men- they make the best girlfriends- they shoot it straight which I love.

      God- John Goodman looks terrible... wow.

      -Wendi :)

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      John Hollywood 2 years ago from Hollywood, CA

      Glad you liked- thanks so much for the visit!!

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      David 23 months ago

      You people need to grow up and stop trying to define who you are based on your sexuality, weight, age, body type, hair, and gender. They're traits. .. not definitions of self. So over the gays that abandon their real selves to be one of these labels. Then scream its just me! This is who I am!

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      name 23 months ago

      So like I'm a pup I suppose. But my partner is a grease monkey kinda guy. You know. He is always fixing (well breaking) the cars. And and loves to over gel his hair. So I dont know wjat category he falls under.

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      John Hollywood 23 months ago from Hollywood, CA

      Oh Wah! Get a life. Really.

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      LordViolet 22 months ago

      Lol, as if people can enter into case. But if you speak of people or community in term of animal totems, wath you write can be really frustrating. The world offer so much more diversity.

      I'm a very tall, skinny dandy with facial hair and cynical attitude, so what I am? A fucked-up twunk?

      Okey, I gonna make my own subcategory, I'm a greyhound. I'm just so proud beeing the leader of a group which I'm the only member, I c'an't stop enjoying it darling ;)

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      John Hollywood 22 months ago from Hollywood, CA

      Sounds like you have anger management issues to work on.

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      LordViolet 21 months ago

      I don't see any problem in assuming i'm wicked and bitter. That's typical of underestimated minorities.

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      GenderqueerCub 19 months ago

      Great article! I enjoyed reading through all you had to say. I guess I would technically be a "Sugar Cub" but i'm alright with that. Great job.

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      Scott Griswold 19 months ago

      What about dolphins?

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      Billy 18 months ago

      None of these describe me. I can't be pigeon holed.

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      Otterthenthat 18 months ago

      Thank you for posting this. I had no idea there We're so many types. And it helped me figure out that I seem to fit into the otter spectrum so according to the definitions I'd most Likely day I'm a Potter. Add I'm also quite new to the gay scene. Thanks again.

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      Tommy UK 17 months ago

      I don't fit into any of these:

      I'm 6.1 ft.

      193 lbs

      Very masculine

      Rugby player build/average

      Dense beard

      None hairy chest

      Broad shoulders

      Irish descent

      Handsome

      Dark Hair/eyes/beard

      So what am I ?

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      Brian 14 months ago from Northern Michigan

      I used to think of myself as follows:

      The dreaded Ginger otter cub.

      But after reading this I may be a hybrid.

      Dreaded Ginger Otter Wolf Bear.

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      Elie Hirschfeld 14 months ago from New York

      Loved reading this!

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      Panda's say what? 13 months ago

      Don't forget about the panda bears...these are my favorite :-) these are the Asian bears, while usually less hairy, they typically have facial hair and are a little heavier.

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      david 12 months ago

      In which category would you put Ray Stevenson ?

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      Jonah 8 months ago

      You need to add the lion... a little less fit but not heavy, a little hairy, compared to Lucian Paine, they prefer to be top

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      Alfredo 8 months ago

      What if I dont fit any of the above?

      Im 34 yrs old , 6 feet tall , 190 pounds ,naturally smooth except for my legs .

      Im not muscular or lean or skinny or fat.

      No surprise no one is into me.

      Im not a fetish object apparently.

      How sad...

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      bradchad 6 months ago

      Very enlightening.

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      Bruno 5 months ago

      Why all the cathergories above revolve around a body type and why 90% of them include a worked out body? Then, if you don't have a ripped body and you have a belly then you're most likely a bear or if you're lanky and slim then you're a twink. But why isn't there anything in between? I find all this very reductive.

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      Billy 5 months ago

      Um I am none of those and find the entire idea of being pigeonholed by looks or any other way just so shallow and superficial. It's part of the reason I completely reject the gay community these days even though I am of homosexual orientation. To be judged scrutinised and categorised in this way is repugnant. It's all about other gay men figuring out how fuckable you are.

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      Alldrin 6 weeks ago

      Well, I am nothing, thank god

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      Ruth Snape 11 days ago

      I'm not gay or male, but wanted to add the point that your description of Jack Black as young or youngish in your list of descriptors is (unfortunately for him) a laugh!

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      Devon 7 days ago

      I know this is an old article but I will actually get to use this for a scientific article im writing. So thanks for this and the super helpful charts!

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      Crimson 11 hours ago

      hmm hard for me to put myself in. I am thin/ lean, and have medium body hair, not enough to be otter, but I am not masculine enough to be a wolf. where would you put

      lean or thin, medium body hair person?

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